September 8, 2005


  • From Tamara’s Blog


    “Where else can I go?”  ~ Tamara


    This is exactly what I said when I would run into things I thought may be questionable in orthodoxy.  I’ve also understood since the beginning that I will need to make myself believe what the church believes whether I agree or not, if that makes sense.   Fr. Peter Gilquist says “Don’t judge the church – let the church judge you” so I’ve tried to approach it in that way. ~ Tracy


    Posted 9/7/2005 at 11:13 AM by ImTracysTribe3

     

     

    I love this quote from Fr. Peter Gilquist. It is so true and I wish all  Orthodox Christians  and all Christians, for that matter,  understood that and lived that way. Sure makes a lot of sense to me!! So many people are ready to criticize instead of seeing their own sin.  Ready to gossip , tear down the Church, tear down our clergy etc…. sad…… Don’t they know when they do this, they insult Christ and His Church ?  I  am finding it very hard to understand why so many Orthodox Christians have the truth right under their noses and they put their own soul in jeopardy because of pride.  For the priest this is the saddest thing possible. He loves his people so much and to watch them like wayward children that won’t take direction is heartbreaking. Makes one weep……

Comments (6)

  • Well, no, the beard doesn’t make the priest… at least no the whole priest. Just that fuzzy part in the front of the face.

    christopher

  • In reading Father Arseny I get a better understanding of the weight the priest (and presvytera) are truly under.  I don’t know that it feels like a weight, but it sure looks like it to me.  So, much responsibility that really only they understand. 

  • I always confuse Guilquist and Ware.  Which one was the convert that made up the Evangelical Orthodox church?  Who/what was/is the other one?

  • “Which one was the convert that made up the Evangelical Orthodox church?”

    Gilquist

    Here is the book Fr. Peter Gilquist wrote that talks about his journey during the early 80s, he was one of the founders of Campus Crusade for Christ.

    Here is a bio of Bishop Kallistos (Timothy Ware) Bishop Kallistos is also a convert. He became Orthodox in 1958 when he was 24. He is one of the most well respected theological minds of our age.

  • Oh, okay.  So they both converted.  Where was Ware before his conversion?

  • Taken from his bio- see link in my last post.

    “Born Timothy Ware in Bath, Somerset, England, Bp. Kallistos was educated at Westminster School and Magdalen College, Oxford, where he took a Double First in Classics as well as reading Theology. In 1958, at the age of 24, he embraced the Orthodox Christian faith (having been raised Anglican), traveling subsequently throughout Greece, spending a great deal of time at the Monastery of St. John in Patmos. He also frequented other major centers of Orthodoxy such as Jerusalem and Mount Athos. In 1966, he was ordained to the priesthood and was tonsured as a monk, receiving the name Kallistos. “

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